In this episode of the Primitive Camping and Bushcraft Podcast, host Chris Speir sits down with Woodsbound Outdoors to discuss the challenges and rewards of creating outdoor content on social media. They explore everything from their passion for the outdoors to the hardships of content piracy, how they handle negative comments, and their go-to survival gear for wilderness adventures.
In this episode of the Primitive Camping and Bushcraft Podcast, host Chris Speir is joined by the outdoor enthusiast and content creator behind Woodsbound Outdoors. Together, they dive deep into the life of a modern outdoorsman navigating the world of social media and survival skills. Woodsbound shares his journey from modest beginnings, experimenting with YouTube videos, to exploding in popularity on platforms like TikTok, where short-form content transformed his brand. The conversation touches on the unique challenges of building a presence online, including the frustrating rise of content piracy and the weird world of fake profiles.
The discussion gets personal, as Woodsbound reflects on his family’s outdoor traditions, his love for wilderness adventures, and the tools and techniques he uses in his videos. Whether it’s choosing the right tarp for shelter, mastering fire-starting with ferro rods, or even navigating the controversies of how "real" survivalists should start fires (lighter vs. primitive methods), the conversation is packed with practical tips and firsthand experience.
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The episode wraps up with discussions on future outdoor plans, hunting season preparations, and personal stories of outdoor adventures. Whether you’re looking for gear advice, survival techniques, or just inspiration from seasoned outdoorsmen, this episode offers something for everyone.
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Welcome back to the primitive camping and bushcraft podcast. My name is Chris Speir and today I'll be your guide to enjoying the great outdoors. And we've got a very special guest with us today is Woodsbound Outdoors. You may know him from his huge TikTok channels and Facebook channels and all that online social media stuff. So Mr. Woodsbound, how are you doing? Doing good. How are you doing? Good. I'm great. Congratulations on all the great success you've had on the outdoor stuff and it's great stuff.
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Going through looking at you like your Facebook and stuff like that, you have to be the most,
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the most pirated survivalist or outdoorsman I've ever seen on there. How does that make you feel? Yeah, that's what I hear. Yeah, it's a problem I never really thought I'd have before. It's kind of annoying. It's a problem I only really have on Facebook for some reason. I don't really have that problem on YouTube. They're pretty good about not letting that kind of thing happen. All right. TikTok, there's a few fake pages, I think, of me.
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My followers, they'll tag me in it if they find somebody copying my stuff.(...) Right.
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There's fake pages. There's even AI images of my face superimposed on somebody else's body as their profile picture. Yeah, yeah, it's weird.(...) That's crazy.
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I know I've tagged you in a couple of them when I've been like, "Look, they're stealing your stuff over here, you know?" Oh, yeah, yeah, it's bad. I get followers messaging me about it all the time and you're always sending me links to them and stuff. It's like a new one pops up every week. Yeah, it's crazy. You wanna pop up and then have 40,000 followers and I'm like, "God, it took a year to get 40,000 people." Yeah, some of them, yeah. Some of them are doing pretty well for themselves, yeah.(...) Well, the problem with that is that they download all your hard work and then they end up making money off of it. And it's money that revenue that's not coming in for you to re-utilize in your outdoor channel and gear and bills and stuff like that, because it's not cheap to do what we do. Heading out into the woods and film it. You gotta have all kinds of gear to do that stuff. And if somebody's taking your revenue stream away from you, it's just,(...) I hate to use the word not fair because there's nothing in life that's fair, but still at the same time, it's just,(...) it should be better processes.(...) Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of work that goes into filming, even just making a 30, 40 second video, it's a lot of work.
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Yeah, it's annoying having to deal with that.
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I try to report them on Facebook. I try to have other people report them, but they don't seem to do much about it for whatever reason.
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Right, well, it's because they're making money off of it. Right, yeah. But it is.
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Well, moving off of that, let's tell everybody a little bit about yourself. What all do you like to do and what got you started doing this kind of stuff and how surprised were you when it actually exploded and took off for you?
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Well, I've always been in to the outdoors for as long as I can remember. My family's always been very outdoorsy, always going fishing and hunting, foraging with my dad and my grandpap and uncles.
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So I've always been into the outdoors and then just as I got older, I wanted to do it more, but I always had school and work and all that, always gets in the way of the fun stuff. All the responsibilities. Yeah, growing up and having all these responsibilities. So,(...) I decided one day I wanted to do it in my spare time and maybe find a way to make a living at it, which seemed pretty impossible at the time,
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but I watched a lot of YouTube, other people doing it.
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And that was back when, before people were really monetized on YouTube.
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And I was watching people doing what they love for a living after a while, after people could get monetized on it. So I said, maybe this is possible. So, I started making videos in my free time, just filming random things, my adventures in the woods and stuff.
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Originally, I wanted to make just a strictly hunting and fishing channel,
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but started watching some survival content.
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I was like, there's hunting season that only lasts for so long, how much content, how much content can I really make from that?
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So, eventually, in my free time, I'd make videos.
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And for a few years, I didn't post any videos because they were just, they were terrible.
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(Laughing) The stage fright, huh? Yeah, yeah, they were bad. So, a lot of footage I ended up just deleting for that reason.
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And so, I started getting better at it over the years and finally posted my first video to YouTube and it didn't do very well. I think it was making a fire with an empty lighter. I think that was my first YouTube video. Oh, wow. And that's when TikTok was just starting out(...) and short form content wasn't really a popular thing yet.
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So, I kept posting videos every once in a while in my free time. Then my wife used TikTok a lot. So, she was like, oh, hey, there's a lot of people on TikTok doing what they love and posting videos. Maybe you should try it. So, I was like, all right, maybe I'll try posting a TikTok video.(...) So, I redid my survival lighter, or not survival, but making a fire with an empty lighter video.
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Shorten it down to a really short video. Was it 55 seconds or whatever it was?
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So, I posted that. I was like, yeah, we'll see what happens.
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And that night I started getting notifications on my phone over and over again.
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And I was like, what's going on? Like, why is my phone going off like crazy? So, I went check my phone and I'm getting all these views on this video.
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And I was surprised by it. I couldn't believe it. It was up to like 30,000 views or something like that. And at that time to me, that was a ton of views. I was like, wow.
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I guess people like this stuff. It's doing a lot better than my YouTube video did.(...) Right.
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So, yeah, I was like, well, maybe I can do something with this.
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I don't know, that was what,(...) three years ago almost? Right, the COVID era.(...) Yeah, yeah.
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So, what happened to me was something a little similar to that is my son says, hey, why don't you start a TikTok? And I looked at him and I said, what in the world is a TikTok?(...) So, I uploaded how to start a friction fire with a cotton ball and some ashes. And that thing exploded. I think in the first several hours, I got like a hundred and thousand views on that. Next thing you know, I had followers join left and right. And I was like, this is crazy. So, I started posting the next video and the next video and the next video. And then after that, it just exploded. And then there for a while, I noticed on your videos, you was like replying to people. I was like, man, look, until I figure out what I can post and what I can't post on here, get off my comments being on negative for some reason. I think he was doing like a how to break firewood with two trees, you know, just simple stuff. And then from that video forward, it was like, I think you had like 45,000 followers at that point.
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And then all of a sudden it just went, the sky's the limit. And I was like, check this out. And then a couple of months went by and you know, I'd already been in like the O of 200, 300 thousands.(...) And I went back and I saw one of your videos. I hadn't seen none of your videos in forever. And then all of a sudden it come back and you was like 800,000. I'm like, check this dude out. Congratulations, man. I was proud.
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Yeah, yeah, thanks.
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Yeah, it really took off like pretty quickly.(...) But yeah, that video you're talking about where I was breaking branches in between, you know, a forked tree,(...) people had to do that. Cause a lot of my videos were, you know, starting to get taken down for graphic content or whatever. You know, and I was just, just because I was using a knife and I can't even remember what else, making fires and stuff like, see, you know, scary stuff like that. Right, you know, yeah.
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Let me tell you.
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So I was like, here, I'll break some branches between a tree and you know, I don't know, maybe teach somebody something.(...) And I'd get comments on it like, oh, this is third grade or stuff. You know, you know, what kind of comments? Oh, I know, I know all about it. I still get it. I mean, I know you do too, but you know, it's to the point now where with both of our channels is that you get so many comments that it's impossible to pretty much reply back to every one of them. And you know, as much as I'd love to, and I would want to, you know, it gets to the point where it's impossible. And I know with you,(...) you know, millions of followers all the way across all your platforms and it's ridiculous. But anyway, you know, I got the copy of the Primitive Camping in Bushcraft book and that's what we based this whole podcast off of. And I know you got a copy of it as well. Yeah, right here.(...) Yep. So what, when you head out into the woods and you're going, let's say you're going camping,
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bolt me through what that looks like for you. Like what kind of stuff do you load in your backpack? Are you a minimalist or are you somebody that throws a bunch of stuff in there? Cause I know that we load a lot of camera gear and whenever I head out into the woods, the majority of my stuff is camera gear.
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And you know, and I'll have just whatever it is to camp on, but show me or describe to everybody that's listening and everybody that's watching what it's like for you to load your stuff and head into the woods.
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I use a 60 liter, you know, ultra light style backpack. It's like a hundred bucks, but it's a nicer one. It's pretty durable, lightweight.
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And I'll take, you know, it all depends like what time of year I'm going out. If I'm going in the summer, camping in the summer, I'm going to carry a lot less than I would in the middle of winter.
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And I might carry different things.
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I'll bring usually an ultra light tent or I'll bring a tarp and a ridge line for it. And sometimes I want to, it all depends on, you know, what kind of camping I want to do. Sometimes I won't even bring that. I'll just make a, you know, a shelter out of, you know, tree bark or whatever. And- Ah, so you're not really, so are you not a hammock camper? I do sleep in a hammock sometimes.
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So in one of my backpacks, I keep a hammock.
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Very comfortable. It's one of my favorite ways to sleep. Right. It gets a little cold in the winter. I don't have an under quilt for mine. Oh, okay. So in the wintertime, I don't usually use hammocks, but we're having warm weather.(...) Right. But always bring some kind of fire starter with me, a fair syrium rod usually. And I'll bring a lighter to,
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a couple of different ways to start a fire. Let's pause that right there and break that down because I know there is a huge,(...) a huge thing where people are like, oh, you're not a survivalist unless you can start a fire with a ferro rod. And I'm like, buddy, I'm a survivalist and I've started more fires with a big lighter than I ever have with a fair syrium. I mean, just because I'm going out into the woods, you know, camping doesn't mean that I have to, I mean, you practice with your stuff and practice makes better. It never makes perfect, but it makes better. And, you know, I use primitive methods all the time to practice, to be proficient because what if the lighter breaks? What if it, you know,(...) you lose it, you won't have a lighter, you have to start it the other way. But ferro rods are my second choice, but I always use a lighter. And I want to dispel that right there because a lot of people, a lot of comments, I get on all my videos. I don't know about you when you start a fire is, or you could bring a lighter.
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You know, that is the comment, or you could bring a lighter. Yeah, I get bashed either way. If I use a lighter to start a fire, I'll get bashed for not using sticks or a bow drill or something. And if I use a bow drill, they're asking me, "Why aren't you using a lighter?" So I get it from both sides.
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You can't win, you can't win no matter what. It's the internet, it is what it is.(...) So you mentioned that you bring a tarp or something with you. So whenever you're heading out and you bring a tarp, like my favorite tarp uses the Double D three by three. You know, it's like 75 bucks. It's a relatively expensive tarp, but it has like 13 attachment points on there. And you could really do a lot of stuff with this tarp.(...) That is my favorite way to set up a shelter when I'm heading out there. So when you're heading out there with your tarps, what is your favorite way to set up your shelter? Because right now we're getting into the shelter section of the book. And that's why we're going over with all the people that's watching the video and all the people that's listening to the podcast is the shelter. And I love the fact that a tarp is a ready, almost ready-made shelter and it's lightweight and convenient. So what's your favorite setup if you bring a tarp with you out into the woods?
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I have a quick deploy Ridgeline, like Dave Canterbury talks about.(...) You just attach it to one tree. It's just a piece of paracord. It's 50 feet long or so.(...) I'll attach one end to a tree with a bow in and use a Marlin spike hitch, attach it to the tree, take the other end to the other tree,
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use a trucker's hitch to tighten everything down.(...) And I have Prussic loops already attached to it.(...) And I'll either make a lean-to for it
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or an A-frame.
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And if I'm using a hammock, I'll just hang the hammock right under it under the A-frame of the tarp. You just drape it over the Ridgeline and then attach each corner to stakes in the ground.
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So that's basically the same type setups that I use whenever I head out. I love the simplicity of a lean-to type shelter with a tarp.(...) And then if it starts raining or I know it's gonna be raining or anything like that, then I'll just make a A-frame type shelter over wherever I'm bedding down.
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But I saw one of your videos that you did the super shelter thing. And did you have some kind of a tarp system over that?
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The plastic sheeting, you mean? Yes.(...) Yeah, the one where it gets real hot. Yeah. Yeah, for that,(...) if it's cold, like around 20 degrees or so, but not super cold.
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Yeah, I'll just, I'll use a Mylar sheet as the backing.
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I'll hang that up first from the Ridgeline
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and just like a lean-to.
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And then over top of that, I'll just drape thin plastic sheeting over everything. Oh, okay, gotcha. With a little bit of ventilation so you can get some fresh air in there. All right. Fresh air exchange coming through so you're not-- Yeah, it looked like it got very hot. Yes, yeah, it did.
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They can get very hot.
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You can add something over top of that, like a sheet or like a wool blanket or something for more added insulation if it's single digits or negatives.
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But if it's a little warmer than that, you don't need all that. It gets very hot in there. Wow, that's crazy. I saw that, I was like, look at this dude go, man. And I've always seen it. I think Morris Kohanski is the one that really developed that or pioneered that or whatever. And the super shelter, he called it, I believe.
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And he really talked about that in his book, "Bushcraft." And the majority of a lot of the skills and the stuff that we use when we go out into the woods, primitive camping, survival, bushcraft, whatever you wanna call it, is stuff that was really pioneered by people like Morris Kohanski or Kephart or stuff like that, where they really just jotted down little tips, tricks, and techniques that they learned or used or learned from somebody else along the way.
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And pretty much the majority of everything that we do is stuff that is learned and relearned. And I hate to say the word regurgitated, but that's really what it is, is put a little spin on it and it's regurgitated for the next person to use and then they develop it in another way.(...) And that seems to be what these skills are, is just everybody adds their own little spin to it. And then it turns into something new.
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Look at some of the big names on YouTube and what they're doing is like, I developed this. And I'm like, no, you didn't. You borrowed that from so-and-so and added a piece to it. Right, yeah.(...) Yeah, the knowledge already existed. You just added, like you said, your own little spin to it. Right, like ridge lines have been there for years. You added pruss loops to it, you know? Which is an amazing thing. Now here in the South, we use trout lines a lot for catfish.
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Now there's several different ways you could do it. And we'll put, we'll run a line out. We got different stages all the way through, usually five to 10 hooks or whatnot. And you bait your hooks, throw it in there and you go about your business. You got three or four trout lines. You can fill a boat up with catfish.(...) But when I was growing up, my dad showed us that you string your line out, the depth you want it, where you want it and everything. And then you come back with the prussic loops(...) and you make them, I don't know, about a foot and a half long, two foot long. And then you put those to the string that you're strong across the water and then put your hook in there and then you can move it to wherever you want it. But whenever the fish got on there, it's stuck. It's not gonna go to the left. It's not gonna go to the right. It's staying right there. And man, the way we catch some catfish, some of the catfish we've caught in the 60s, you know, 60 pounds, nice size catfish.
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Oh yeah, but that's a pretty big thing in the South trout lines setting them up. They're not legal here in Pennsylvania.
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You go out there, you go out to come down here and we'll go camping for a week. (Laughs) Yeah, I always wanted to try that. There's always something I wanted to do, but you know, a lot of stuff's illegal. Everything's illegal here. (Laughs) Oh really? Not about Mississippi. (Laughs) Yeah, I'm sure it's a lot different down there. Farthest South I've ever been is Georgia, so.(...) Oh really? Yeah. So we got, it's all, it's good stuff here.(...) It's hot in the summertime for sure. And I mean, like we're just coming out of summertime. It's well at the end of September, going into October and it's still 90 degrees outside, you know? Yeah, that's crazy.(...) Yeah, and it don't really start cooling off here till the end of October, 1st of November. And even then cooling off is high 70s, low 80s in the.
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(Laughs) And that's your idea. Cool, huh? That's about what it is here now. Really? Well, at nighttime here, like you was talking about hammocks a while ago.
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I have under quilt and the only time I use it is whenever it's like 30 degrees or below.
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Because the cold here, I lived in Alaska for four years and I was in the military.(...) And it was a different cold. Like it could be 20 degrees up there and you'd be outside in a long sleeve shirt and long pants. That's it. You wouldn't need a jacket or anything like that. But here in Mississippi, the humidity is so bad that if it's 20 degrees, you're gonna freeze to death. You know? I mean, it is cold. You need a parka. You need like bibs and insulated stuff.
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(Laughs) Now, do you even get snow down there?
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Once every five or six years, we'll get about two inches.
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That's about it. That's crazy.
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Like it'll snow in the evening and it'll be all melted in the next morning. So all these snowmen people go out there all night and make snowmen.(...) And then there'll be all melted blobs by in the morning. (Laughs) Running out there making snowmen while they can.
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Right.
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So when you head out into the woods, how we was talking about while ago, you're loading your bag up with different stuff.
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What is your favorite go-to as far as food and food gear?
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Food. I love food. How do you do?
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So,
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mountain house meals are a big thing.
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Freeze dried foods.
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Especially the beef stew ones. They're really good. Oh, I love the beef stew by mountain house.
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Yeah, it's probably my favorite one. One of my favorite meals.
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A lot of times I'll bring tuna, canned salmon.
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I'll dehydrate my own meals,(...) like chili,(...) all different kinds of soups.
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Like I dehydrated,
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I got made fun of for how I said naki.
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Chicken naki soup.
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That's really good from Olive Garden.
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Just dehydrated meals just to lighten them up. Take a lot less space up in your pack and don't weigh nearly as much as if you just bring canned soup.(...) So things like that.
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Packed flavored tuna.
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All different kinds of things I bring.
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If it's winter time, I'll bring steaks. That way they can sit in my backpack and not go bad.
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Right. I tell you what, one of my favorite things to bring whenever I'm going out into the woods in the summertime, well, year round really here, is summer sausage. Summer sausage doesn't really have to be refrigerated as long as it's still sealed up. And one of the beautiful things about it is you can eat it with almost anything. Yeah, you can make a sandwich out of it if you had the bread to make a sandwich. I watched how you did, you made some bread out there.(...) And how was that? Bannock bread, that's another thing I like to bring.
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I'll make the mixture up. All it is is flour, some baking powder and a little bit of salt. You could add different spices into it, but that's usually all I put into it. So when I'm out there, all I have to do is add water. Just mix it up while it's already in the Ziploc bag. And then just put it on a hot rock or a stick and hang it over the fire till it bakes.
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See, and I love that kind of stuff like I did one.(...) That I did a video on making biscuits like a big cat head biscuit, big old thing like that. It was really a loaf of bread is what it was. And did that by the fire and made my old biscuit and everything. And that was so good. But getting back to the summer sausage, that stuff is amazing. You can use it in beans. You can use it with your eggs in the morning, cut it up and eat it for breakfast.(...) And it just goes so far and it's a pound. It's less than a pound. So it's a pretty substantial amount of protein or fat and food that would last you a couple of days while you're out there.
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And one of my go-to things has always been like dried beans. You can take some dried kidney beans or pinto beans or whatever.
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One pound could feed you for several days and it's a lot of food in that. And if you use like that minute rice, that dehydrated rice, you can eat anything.(...) My brother and I, when we go out together, we'll bring a pound of beans and we'll bring some of that in minute rice(...) and we'll catch catfish and we'll smoke catfish or bluegill or bass or whatever. Pike is real good.
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And we'll let them stand,(...) hang them by the tail on the side of the fire and let them smoke all day long. And I'm telling you right now, that is amazing with beans. And I really, I covered that in the book here in the cooking section or the food section. But I love some smoked fish out on the river. Oh yeah, definitely.
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It's been a while since I had Pike.
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Catfish is really good though.(...) It's like a Southern staple I hear.
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Yeah, you can't go a stone's throw without hitting two or three catfish places around here. Yeah, that's what I hear.
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Tortilla shells are a really good thing to bring too. Cause they're flat, compact. You just put them in your backpack. They don't take up much space and you can put so many different things on them. You can make fish tacos. You can make fish tacos. You can put beans and rice in them with some fish meat
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and just all different kinds of things you can put on them.
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So do you vacuum seal them? You'll open them out of the original package and vacuum seal them. They last a little bit longer that way or? Yeah, vacuum sealing, I'll vacuum seal. But it puts stuff in the freezer. It lasts a lot longer that way.
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All my deer meat I vacuum seal and it gives a lot more storage time in the freezer.(...) Yeah, I'm very excited. Deer season opens up next week down here, bow season. And I'm actually preparing to head out and I'm going to be gone for about a week. Are you? And yeah, I'm really excited about that one. And so I love the first week of deer season. It's usually whenever I get my deer every year. And that's it, you know, I'll go and hunt that week and get me a nice little buck. And then I'll come home and process it down. And then the rest of the year I'll film.
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There you go.
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Yeah, I'm excited about it too. I go every year.
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I usually wait for a little while though till the rut starts to kick in and the deer really start to open.
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Usually here that happens end of October, last week of October, first week of November. It's when it really starts to cool down pretty good.
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Right, our rut starts about the first two weeks of December.
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But hey, let's move along real quick because we only got a few minutes left before we got to get out of this video.
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But water,(...) you know, we talked about food, we talked about shelter, we talked about starting fire. Would you, your lighter, your ferro rod or whatever.
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Now one of the main necessities here is going to be water.
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You're up North.(...) And so are you comfortable drinking straight out of the stream? Or are you going to be boiling your water?
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I mean, it depends what the stream looks like. I mean, no matter how clear the water is, you know, there's always a chance it could be and have pathogens in it. Absolutely. If it's a cool, clear, you know, mountain stream coming straight out of the mountain, yeah, I've drank out of them before without filtering, without boiling or anything. I never had an issue with it.
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There's times I've gotten upset stomach from it, but if I can, I'm always going to filter at least. I'm always going to at least filter it or boil it.(...) Right. So that's what I try to tell all the viewers and the listeners here is that(...) just be safe and boil your water.(...) You know, I usually use a mill bank bag or something to that effect to mainly a handkerchief. You know, I'll use a handkerchief a lot just to get the grit and the grime out of it.(...) I've done a video where I used one of those reusable K-cup filters and just poured into my water bottle and poured the dirty water into there, filtering out all the grit and grime and then I'll boil the water and drink it. Now, I have a problem being that it's 900 degrees down here in the summertime. When you boil your water and you're thirsty, you have to wait for it to cool off. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the worst. Sitting there waiting, you're dying of thirst and you got to wait for it to cool down. Yeah. You got a pounding headache. Yeah, everything, come on.
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So are you familiar with the dynamic duo on TikTok, the two old farts in the woods?
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I've seen their stuff before. Yeah, it's been a long time, but yeah, they've been on YouTube for a while, haven't they? Yeah, YouTube and TikTok and they come down(...) we did some videos together last year. We went mushroom hunting and found some lines, made mushrooms and so, but they made their own millbait bags and they did an awesome job with it. And I mean, it was awesome. And all you do is pour your dirty water in there and it gets all the silt and debris and everything out and leaves the unfiltered dirty water, but clean where you can boil it and you're not going to have all the grit and grime and stuff in there.
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Plus it'll save on your water filter.(...) Oh yeah, yeah, you know, you get a lot more life out of it that way by pre-filtering it. Right, and a lot of people, I can't tell you how many times I've watched people actually just walk up to the stream with their life straw or their whatever, you know, and just suck it straight up. And I'm like, dude, you gonna clog that dude up?(...) Yeah, it doesn't take long. I've even done it with like a Ziploc bag. You just snip one of the corners off of it. And then, you know, shove a piece of cotton clothing in there and just pre-filter it that way. Hang it from the tree. Yeah, just hang it from a tree, let it drip into a container of some kind.
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And then-- Oh, that's pretty neat. Yeah, yeah, it works pretty much the same way.(...) Now, one time you did a video and I really,
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so one of the problems that I have is living in your shadow is every time I come up with an idea, I'll get ready to start filming it and you would have just done it or have already just done it. And I'm like, man.
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But you did a great video one time about taking your sock and filling it up with mud and then just squeezing it till you got the water out of it. Now, the guy from Battle Box took that the next step.
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I forget his name from Battle Box, but he went out, did the same thing and collected that dirty water and then poured a chemical into it. And then it separated mud and silt and everything. And what was left was drake.
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It's called a pure bag or something like that. Right. Absolutely, yeah, it clumps all the sediment together and as this all falls to the bottom. I've seen that video. Yeah. Yeah.
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I just, I don't know how I feel about drinking all them chemicals.(...) Yeah, I don't know enough about it to drinking that stuff, I don't know.
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So, well, anyway, I have really enjoyed this conversation. Man, we're gonna have to do it again.
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And I think we had a good conversation here, dude. Yeah, definitely. Thanks for having me. Oh, you're welcome. So we're gonna wind this thing down. And look, everybody, if you really wanna learn some stuff about the great outdoors, go over to Woodsbound Outdoors. It's on Facebook, YouTube, TikTok,(...) what else?
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That's about it, huh? Instagram?(...) Instagram. Yeah, yeah. Just make sure you follow the right guys. Yeah, make sure you follow the right one. And, but I'll leave a link in the description of this video and in the notes for this podcast.